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Post by knollwood on Jul 27, 2009 15:21:18 GMT -6
Did anyone see the special on 60 Minutes about gun sales? It was pretty interesting. They talked about how much gun sales have soared in the past few months.
Of course they talked to some people against gun sales. One guy's sister was killed in the VA Tech shootings. I say that if the teachers or some of the other students had guns they could have stopped the shooter real fast.
If you want to watch the video clip or read the article go to the 60 Minutes web site.
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Post by hasset on Aug 28, 2009 19:11:13 GMT -6
(I hope gun sales soar! For those of you with guns, it is always good to take a firearms refresher course.)
FIREARMS REFRESHER COURSE 1. "Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do not." ~Thomas Jefferson
2. Those who trade liberty for security have neither. ~John Adams 3. Free men do not ask permission to bear arms. 4. An armed man is a citizen. An unarmed man is a subject. 5. Only a government that is afraid of its citizens tries to control them. 6. Gun control is not about guns; it's about control. 7. You only have the rights you are willing to fight for.
8. Know guns, know peace, know safety. No guns, no peace, no safety.
9. You don't shoot to kill; you shoot to stay alive. 10. Assault is a behavior, not a device. 11. 64,999,987 firearms owners killed no one yesterday.
12.The United States Constitution (c) 1791. All Rights Reserved. 13.The Second Amendment is in place in case the politicians ignore the others. 14. What part of 'shall not be infringed' do you NOT understand?
15. Guns have only two enemies; rust and politicians. 16.. When you remove the people's right to bear arms, you create slaves.
17. The American Revolution would never have happened with gun control.
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Post by peacefulnortherner on Sept 3, 2009 17:01:32 GMT -6
Im not against people owning guns. I happen to own 3 shotguns 2 rifles and 1 pistol. do I feel safe in my home with them? Well yes of course I do. I love going hunting and I love going trap shooting. Would I ever think I make myself safer, or other people feel safer by walking around in public with my 9mm strapped to my hip? Not a snowball's chance in hell. Sensible gun regulation is good for the populous, because if people can obtain and own weapons so easily we fall into tragedies like VA Tech. (By the way my dad and my mom are both teachers, and my father has been hunting for 60 years and been a gun owner for that long as well. They both concur that teachers having guns is possibly one of the stupidest ideas anyone has ever come up with. I wont even respond to the thought of my fellow classmates in college carrying guns around campus because that notion is so far removed from any semblance of reality)
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Post by hasset on Sept 3, 2009 21:59:51 GMT -6
I know what you are saying about guns but it sure is nice when someone can stop a maniac from murdering a bunch of people. I would hate to see us all going around with guns in our holsters like in the old western movies. No matter how much gun control or regulation we have, there will always be a certain number of people who seem stable and normal enough to get a gun permit but will flip out and become insane enough to do awful crimes. How many times have you read a story about a crime and everyone says "I can't believe he did that. He seemed so normal." I wish there was some way to prevent tragedies like what happened at VA Tech. I don't have the answer. I know that some of the shootings in public high schools were done by kids who had been teased and made fun of for years. It sure would help if we could have teachers and parents stress to kids that it is important to be nicer to everyone.
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Post by cubbieblue on Sept 6, 2009 21:02:23 GMT -6
A friend of mine sent this email and it is interesting:
GUN CONTROL THE HISTORY OF THE WORLD TEACHES US THAT IT WILL REPEAT ITSELF IF WE DO NOT LEARN TO CONTROL RECURRING EVENTS----HERE IS AN EXAMPLE OF THOSE EVENTS: Gun History After reading the following historical facts, read the part about Switzerland twice. A LITTLE GUN HISTORY In 1929, the Soviet Union established gun control.. From 1929 to 1953, about 20 million dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated. ------------------------------ In 1911, Turkey established gun control. From 1915 to 1917, 1.5 million Armenians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated. ------------------------------ Germany established gun control in 1938 and from 1939 to 1945, a total of 13 million Jews and others who were unable to defend themselves were rounded up and exterminated. ------------------------------ China established gun control in 1935. From 1948 to 1952, 20 million political dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated ------------------------------ Guatemala established gun control in 1964. From 1964 to 1981, 100,000 Mayan Indians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated. ------------------------------ Uganda established gun control in 1970. From 1971 to 1979, 300,000 Christians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated ------------------------------ Cambodia established gun control in 1956. From 1975 to 1977, one million educated people, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated. ----------------------------- Defenseless people rounded up and exterminated in the 20th Century because of gun control: 56 million. It has now been 12 months since gun owners in Australia were forced by new law to surrender 640,381 personal firearms to be destroyed by their own Government, a program costing Australia taxpayers more than $500 million dollars. The first year results are now in: List of 7 items: Australia-wide, homicides are up 3.2 percent. Australia-wide, assaults are up 8.6 percent. Australia-wide, armed robberies are up 44 percent (yes, 44 percent)! In the state of Victoria alone, homicides with firearms are now up 300 percent. Note that while the law-abiding citizens turned them in, the criminals did not, and criminals still possess their guns! While figures over the previous 25 years showed a steady decrease in armed robbery with firearms, this has changed drastically upward in the past 12 months, since criminals now are guaranteed that their prey is unarmed. There has also been a dramatic increase in break-ins and assaults of the ELDERLY. Australian politicians are at a loss to explain how public safety has decreased, after such monumental effort, and expense was expended in successfully ridding Australian society of guns. The Australian experience and the other historical facts above prove it. You won't see this data on the US evening news, or hear politicians disseminating this information. Guns in the hands of honest citizens save lives and property and, yes, gun-control laws adversely affect only the law-abiding citizens Take note my fellow Americans, before it's too late! The next time someone talks in favor of gun control, please remind them of this history lesson. With guns, we are 'citizens.' Without them, we are 'subjects'. During WWII the Japanese decided not to invade America because they knew most Americans were ARMED! SWITZERLAND ISSUES EVERY HOUSEHOLD A GUN! SWITZERLAND'S GOVERNMENT TRAINS AND ISSUES EVERY ADULT A RIFLE. SWITZERLAND HAS THE LOWEST GUN RELATED CRIME RATE OF ANY CIVILIZED COUNTRY IN THE WORLD. DON'T LET OUR GOVERNMENT WASTE MILLIONS OF OUR TAX DOLLARS IN AN EFFORT TO MAKE ALL LAW ABIDING CITIZENS AN EASY TARGET.
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Post by piperdown on Sept 6, 2009 22:33:33 GMT -6
Ya, a 9mm would never make me feel safe either. It's good for little more than shooting mice, or anorexic rats-even then you may have to run away while the rat bleeds slowly to death. I like my LAR "officers" shortie conversion in .45WM. Can't feel safe with 9mm... it's little better than a glorified hat pin! Arming teachers is insane, not to mention won't fit with their liberal-progressive agenda; You know, the one they keep trying to feed our kids. They would look like this guy.... www.youtube.com/watch?v=am-Qdx6vky0
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