Miscalculated Transparency

[colonelbuckrobely]

Obama may already be a lame duck President, at least we can hope. The power grab is on in full force in Washington. What ever happened to States' rights? I think we are more than capable of handling locally what Washington is grabbing. It is much easier to hold local politicians that we know accountable than those insulated in Washington and thousands of miles away.

www.americanthinker.com/2009/03/president_obamas_miscalculated.html

Do you agree or disagree?

[mndapa1]

I agree 100%

[fred]

I disagree 100%--you right wing nuts are truly hilarious when you all get together. Obama handled the stem cell question beautifully--he actually thinks before he responds. The Previous Occupant of the White House had, what, maybe 2 press conferences a year because even he knew how embarrassing it would be--remember his babbling when he was asked if he could think of a single mistake he had made in almost 8 years (I've got a suggested answer, Dubya, how about "Everything I've done in the last 8 years!")--he insisted on pre-submitted questions so he could rehearse his answers, and they had planted correspondents in the audience who would toss up cream puff questions. This president can actually formulate, not to mention utter, a coherent thought of his own, and has command of the most minute details, unlike the previous president who can most charitably be called "Totally Clueless."

[mndapa1]

Does he? Or does he wait for a response from his team and it to come up on his teleprompter to display "HIS" answer.

My dad suffers from inoperable cancer and end stage renal disease. He would tell you he would rather die than sacrifice another life for search for a cure.

we have looked at the research. 95% of viable research in cell regeneration comes from cord blood or live stem cell donors. The practice of harvesting embryos to kill for research is no more humane than using puppies or cats for research.

We as Christians, believe life begins at conception, as does GOD. So either Obama is a hypocrite or a liar, or both. In either repsect, Obama is wrong on this issue and a hypocrite if he calls himself a Christian. Most of us know the answer to that.

So were they his words? Dont know. Neither does anyone outside that room. Is he a better Orator than GW? Yes. But is that more important than morals. Not a chance.

[dtothelux]

I am glad you brought up the babbling. Here is a video of your hero without his teleprompter. I hope you enjoy it.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zc6wQMVHhic

I am also glad you brought up the press conferences. I assume that you are aware that the questioners for his recent town hall meeting were all campaign backers?

voices.washingtonpost.com/44/2009/03/27/obama_town_hall_questioners_we.html

[mndapa1]

Why of course....why not stack the deck. That way he can only answer questions that he feels comfortable with. I dont doubt he hands out a list of questions approved for asking and anything else is off the table.

I would love to interview the teleprompter in chief with out his toy and drill him on whats really important and see how he does. But of course, with his big Harvard education by affirmative action, I am sure he would be no match for me. hahaha!!

[colonelbuckrobely]

Fred, I was hoping for better from you. Please feel free to disagree but base it on fact and rational discussion. Your first post was nothing more than flaming, name calling and inuendo. Rather sad, really. When and if you return I hope you might have some substance to your comments. Then we will have something to discuss. How does that sound?

[fred]

As I said, you right-wing nuts are truly hilarious:
1) Stem cells are not going to be "harvested" for research--they are stem cells that are otherwise going to be flushed down the toilet, as millions are each year, and to suggest that they would otherwise become human beings is utter nonsense. (Fact: Jesus said, I knew you before you were born. God's utterance is that our souls were created before we were conceived. Conseption is the unity of one sperm and one egg. Thus a new life born) The only thing more non-sensical is to suggest that embryonic stem cell research is not necessary to find cures for all kinds of maladies common to the human race with out doing any scientific testing to find out. This is the most extreme example where right-wing political nonsense is attempting to overrule legitimate scientific research. (AS LINKS ABOVE PROVE: There is no concrete evidence that research supports this authors opinion)
2) You clowns in your search for something to bash the most articulate (teleprompter proficient does not construde articulate) president in the last 100 years about (do you think for a moment that your boy Ronald Reagan wasn't all teleprompter? (Fact: Ronald Reagan didnt use a teleprompter except for his state of the Union Addresses: Source: Michael Reagan, Presidents Son) He was as clueless as George Bush II but was the Master of the Teleprompter) keep making a big issue out of the President's use of a teleprompter. Take a day off from listening to Michael Savage or some other Neanderthal Nut Case and read Michael Gerson's recent piece on the President's use of a teleprompter. Gerson is a very conservative former speech writer to George II who makes the valid point that it is not USING a teleprompter, as all major public officials do in making a speech or presentation, that is the issue but rather what goes INTO the teleprompter, and if what goes in is reasoned, well-conceived, and coherently and articulately presented it is a excellent tool in allowing the speaker to present his or her case in an organized and thought-provoking manner, and that President Obama does an excellent job in doing so, since he writes and edits many of his most important addresses personally. So apparently you goofballs would rather have the President of the United States attempt to inform the American public of his administration's manner of dealing with all the crucial issues we face today in the babbling and incoherent manner of his predecesor? (Author assumes what? That Obama writes his own speeches? Ronald Reagan wrote and edited most of his own)
3) Whenever I hear someone assert that God is on his/her side of a political issue as Mr. Man of the Cloth/Small Businessman/Republican Shill just did, i.e. "God believes that life begins at conception" I have to ask "Why are you so fortunate to be chosen by God to have regular conversations with Him?" or put another way "When did you develop such unbridled arrogance as to presume you know what God believes or thinks?" ADMIN: The Bible tells us that those who seek the will of God and pray to God, will have understanding and conversation with God. This is fact, not opinion. God is clear on his protection of life, when life begins, and murder)

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[hasset]

I think doctors could tell you more about stem cell research, not politicians. I heard Dr. Oz on a TV program that said diseases will be cured by other means, not from stem cells. He also said that adult stem cells from your mouth work better than from a baby.

[hasset]

One thing that struck me as I re read this discussion is that I do not trust people. Fred said the stem cells were just going to be "flushed down the toilet" anyway so why not use them. I have heard that excuse before when people are wanting to use stem cells from aborted babies. I do not trust people at all. If they thought stem cells from an aborted baby would cure them, they would gladly have a whole bunch of abortions in order to get the cells they think they need. Fred, don't you know how a lot of people are?

[jesusfreak]

I see the admin had some fun with Freds post. What the public doesnt know, is that there has not ever been any substantial findings from embryonic stem cell research. It has all come from cord blood or adult stem cells.

Adult stem cells have developed to where they can adapt...where as embryonic stem cells are not adaptive or reactive. This means they have virtually not use for groing cells or tissue.